Thread:Tecmckee/@comment-24809705-20170926185341

Your latest edit summaries to Bormann informs Hitler feature the following passage: "[T]he translation you put there sounds like it has been translated through multiple languages before being put into English." What is the issue?

A problem I see with your material is that it sounds like something a native English speaker would not say (e.g. "generalship"(sic) on the Original Bunker Scene (N.B.: this quality is also a reason why I have been flagging your translations as machine translations).

Most of the translations on the pages have been on this wiki for a long while (since 2010 as far as I know). With those, they go through one additional stage which restores the nuances and so on that a raw translation cannot provide. Is this what you are referring to when you mean that I plug my translations through multiple languages? As stated before, the lack of this quality is what makes me suspect they are machine translations (I also plugged the phrases through Google Translate to check my suspicions, which about 75% of the time matched what was on the wiki).

Most, if not all, translated media undergoes this additional step past the raw translation solely because the result is readable and sounds natural to an English speaker. Some take this an additional step further and add their own creative touch to the translated text (a phrase we know as localization). My intention is not to provide a full localization of the movie, but I believe the clarifying edits are necessary thanks to nuancial differences between English and German.

I would like to settle this dispute in a civil matter before it devolves into a full edit war. Although I am not a mod myself (and would like that you respect that I am not a mod but only bringing to your attention an issue that can compromise the quality of the wiki's information), the mods have already been told about this issue, and are currently working to define standards on how the German dialogue should be translated, whether it should be left on the raw translation stage or further clarification edits should be made to convey the nuances presented by the German dialogue.

By the way, on the Bormann informs Hitler scene, in the line where Hitler says "an die Wand stellen," he really means that Göring should be executed. 