Talk:Fourth-generation Untergangers/@comment-4356266-20150225155830/@comment-25330859-20150226024051

Faiz, I have to disagree with you on those arguements. The third-gen has had their diversity throughout its relatively short lifespan, a dispute was a part in creating the third-gen, the changes in the unterganging environment have caused creations of new generations, and phases seem like a counter-productive thing.

TLD created "Krebs Plans", and his parodies are very original (given that Fegelein is Hitler's friend, not enemie). Hansi made those character icons that untergangers still use today, even when she hasn't been active for a while. Rocket had creative parodies, such as "Hitler the Jedi" before he left, and would've continued if he stayed. FegelDolfParodies is one of the best untergangers from his amazing parodies, and he's a third-gen. Pikachu53 made "A Nazi Christmas Carol", one of the best parodies in 2014 (not better than PoJ's "Hitler becomes a wizard", but at least top 5). And SentineL's "Hitler's Christmas Parody Disaster" is insanely unique. Point is, the third-gen is diverse, you are just focused on HRP's fans.

Secondly, sentimentality was a part of creating the third-generation. The conversation that ended up establishing the third-gen (retroactively by at least 6 months) was due to disputes of HRP's fans. Now I'm not saying was just because of that, but it was the part that sealed the deal. The disputes of untergangers before the third-gen didn't result in an environmental change in unterganging. The first-gen ended because of the YouTube blockings (changing the environment of unterganging), the second-gen was stopped because of the Kobra documentary, which put unterganging into mainstream media, changing the environment again. Likewise, the third-gen stopped because the original Untergangers Chat, where all new untergangers could be made known to more popular untergangers, making the new gangers popular as well (or infamous), closed down.

Thirdly, phases seem to be a counter-productive thing. If phases were a thing in the generations, then you would have to add "phases" in the second-gen. The second-gen had many incidents that could be "phases", yet you don't say that the second-gen should have them. When the October Revolution happened, that could be a start of a new phase, but, as we see, no defining border has been made. Why should we start making phases now?

Overall, the fourth-gen should not be considered a part of the third-gen. The third-gen had its unique characteristics from its best (like the second-gen had their own characteristics from its best); environmental changes in unterganging have been causes of ending generation ranges, and the closure of the unterganger chat has caused a major environmental change; and the phases idea seems a bit counter-productive, as the same idea could be done on the second-gen. The fourth-gen will be inspired by the previous generations, and will aquire their own characteristics unique from previous generations.